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, missouri, say the teen was very thin and the country released this video claiming the decoded a u.s. reconnaissance drone planes. it shows the u.s. base inside afghanistan and several other aerial shots. there reportedly drawn lost in december 2011. they insist they captured that missing plane. thethe obama administration hands over to the senate intelligence committee today. a classified document that justifies the killing of americans who are members of al-qaeda. the justice department memo says the u-s government may kill any american overseas. if a high- ranking government official believes they are top operatives for the terror group. the document says the government doesn't need to wait until an attack on america is imminent. the white house is sharing the memo in response to complaints about the secrecy of its drone policy. the obama administration hands over to the senate intelligence committee today. a classified document that justifies the killing of americans who are members of al-qaeda. expected to face. he is also expected to explain his role in the detention and inter
the name jesus, going after a dozen other u.s. clothing companies for selling jesus the and apparel. now, they claim their company has the exclusive rights to the name and other people cannot use it. >> and not getting it. jesus teens is the name of that company. they register the name. back in 2007. here is was some of those genes look-alike. the company uses phrases like dow shot at any other genes before me and he loves me follows me. according to the u.s. trademark office the name of a personal character is register both only to if you can show it is used in a way that tells people what you do in addition to who you are. in this case, they get the name because it is at tied -- the name is tied to apparel. in my opinion a name like jesus should be the exception. should be trademarked. jesus jeans, well, they should have turned the other cheek. that is my "2 cents more." and coming up tomorrow, a routine checkup that cost more than a new car. all talk to the man behind some startling new numbers on the price of health care. steven brill from time magazine. you're going to want to see t
of these agenda items through. >> every bit of it. >>> a u.s. senator's travel habits are under fire right now and may land him in serious legal trouble. we have the document showing that senator bob menendez, did not, as requested, to report that he accepted free plane trips. >>> and the fall of a man who was once the most catholic leaders in the united states. it's chevy truck month! silverado was also recognized for the lowest cost of ownership. hey, what are you gonna do with it? end table. oh. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now get 0% financing for 60 months, plus trade up to get $1,750 total allowance on a silverado all-star edition. or trade up and choose customer cash plus option package discount for a total value of $7,250. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male announcer ] just like you, business p
," the u.s. is going to sue s&p for the ratings on these loans. what's going on there? can americans get money from that? >> it's unclear. it sounds as if the u.s. does win, is successful, there would likely be some compensation or some monetary award. >> explain this quickly. they're suing s&p for giving high ratings, high marks to these companies that were on shaky ground, to say the least. >> they're suing -- they're likely going to sue, according to the story of s&p, because s&p rated certain securities and certain packages of things that these financial firms had, gave them high ratings. >> gave the federal's actual instrume instruments the high ratings. >> didn't deserve those ratings. as a result, companies either kept them on their books and they went out and tried to sell them. >> so the justice department is going to sue s&p, going to get all this money, this pot of money -- >> you're jumping two or three sets ahead. that's their hope. >> who will get the money at the end? >> from the stories, i can't tell, likely go to the government and the government would disperse some of t
in the u.s. and around the world. >>> it's called the biggest night in music industry. we're talking about tonight and talking about the grammys in los angeles. nichelle turner says she's seeing tighter security because of that manhunt. >>> while the mayor of los angeles is making sure the grammys are safe and secure, he's also vowing to find a dangerous ex-cop. that's christopher dorner. a $1 million reward now on the table. let's go straight out to casey wian in los angeles. a record reward now being offered here, right? >> reporter: that's right. and lapd chief charlie beck said, martin, it was remarkably easy to raise the money for that million-dollar reward. the mayor of los angeles saying the money came from corporations, charitable organizations, law enforcement groups, the city, lots of people banding together, showing just how important this effort is to the city of los angeles. here's what the police chief and the mayor had to say at that news conference. >> this is an act, and make no mistake about it, of domestic terrorism. this is a man who has targeted those that we entrust t
and will now likely testify under oath and give full details of how he cheated for so long to the u.s. anti-doping agency. armstrong had been faced with a deadline to testify or lose his last chance at break on his lifetime ban from sports. in a just-released statement, usada wrote -- we have been in talks with mr. arm strorng and we understand that he does want to be part of the solution to clean up the sport of cycling. the sudden change comes on the heels of an abc news exclusive. our report that according to a high level source, agents are actively investigating armstrong or obstruction, witness tampering and intimidation, for allegedly threatening people who dared tell the truth about his cheating. a case reignited by his recent confession to oprah. >> i didn't invent the culture. >> mm-hmm. >> but i didn't try to stop the culture. >> reporter: if charges are ultimately filed, the consequences could be severe. >> these are serious potential crimes. you're talking about possible sentences, up to five, ten years. >> reporter: the pressures against armstrong are immense, and include civil
, art, certainly we have a lot of deals going on. the biggest month for u.s. deals since june 2008. it's the gdps around the world putting a wrempbl into futures this morning. >> particularly in europe, shares of gdp reports knocked europe for a tailspin here. not too much valentine's day cheer showing up. so far beginning to look like the dow has given up rallying for lent. let's hope that doesn't continue. >> lent is a long time so let's hope not. in terms of the g-20, it's sort of a photo-op and that's it. is it much more important this time around as there's so many statements regarding currency manipulation being bandied about, having an impact on currency market and equity markets. >> you're absolutely correct. it went from g 7 comments to possibly right on the main table. g-20 meeting. the thrust is the end. how do we keep this orderly and prevent an outright currency war from breaking out. we've got a lot of american message fund players going along. half the world appears to be short the end believing this is going on. >> a longtime strategy to a certain extent, worries about
the u.s. postal service says delivering the mail on saturdays must stop. if they are to survive. it's one of two american institutions in the news tonight for differing reasons in changing times. we want to begin tonight with nbc's tom costello in glen echo, maryland. tom, good evening. >> reporter: hi, brian, no secret the postal service is up to its neck in red ink, handling 30 billion fewer pieces of first class mail today than just four years ago. and guess what? delivery of packages booming because we're all buying stuff online. this action is about just trying to keep the lights on. for people all over america, like 71-year-old lois sexton in tennessee, that mailbox at the end of the driveway has been a reliable connection to the rest of the world. >> that's my communication with the people i have my retirement with, my social security. >> reporter: since 1863, six days a week, rain or shine, letters, bills, government checks, newspapers, even movies, have arrived, even on saturday. now the 21st century with its e-mail, e-cards and e-pay, has come knocking. >> we cannot put ou
that dykes had a gun? the bunker was four feet below. >> interestingly enough within we learned through the u.s. military, through a few sources confirmed to cnn, that the military loaned to the fbi high-tech detection device typically used to find homemade bombs in war zones. we do not know if this specifically was used to find that gun. it was on site. there were military members on site. we know those military members would have only been in support roles and were not involved in the raid that went in to save ethan. >> victor blackwell, live for us this morning. thank you very much. >>> new developments in the murders of well-known exnavy s.e.a.l. chris kyle and his friend, chad littlefield at a texas shooting range, police say the suspect, 25-year-old eddie ray routh, an iraq war veteran suffered from post traumatic stress disorder. he had been taken to a mental hospital twice over the past five months after threatening to kill his family and himself. the former marine is currently on so you cried watch on suicide watch. >>> federal records show buses operated by the company call failed mor
occasions. they are successful to make $1 billion in the u.s. last year. instead of paying corporate taxes on, that it will get a refund of $429 million. >> it's interesting. facebook paid out a huge amount of bonuses to the corporate executives and that greatly reduced the tax liability. >> facebook because of the stock options tax break getting refund from the federal government. of more than $400 million this year. more to come in # future. >> facebook has more tax deductions to go. the group citizens for tax justice reported details. >> employees cashed in stock options. at that point, did a tax deduction for the company. even though it didn't cost them a nickel, the government treats it as wages. they get a deduction for it. >> the company couldn't use them at all once and it will use more in coming years. $3 billion in tax break altogether, just the thing the president says we should stop. >> save hundreds of billions of dollars getting rid of the tax loopholes and deduction for the well off and well connected. >> that could apply to facebook. aside from face time with the president,
this morning and a health care burden for the u.s. neurologists predict the number of alzheimer's patients is expected to triple by the year 2050. that's when as many as 14 million patients may need care for the disease. the startling projection follows a study of patient records, as well as census numbers. >> doctors are warning parents about a strain of whooping cough. the new england journal"the new medicine" reports it's caused by a vaccine resistant strain. it's the worst outbreak of its kind in 60 years. >>> and what will be the story of the weekend. a powerful blizzard is zeroing in on the northeast, threatening to bring fierce winds and up to two feet of snow. the nor'easter expected to be the worst in years, is moving in from the gulf coast and the great lakes. snow is coming down this morning in chicago. but by tomorrow night, this storm will be unleashing heavy snow on boston and coastal new england. and that storm, as you know, could make a mess out of travel, even before the first flakes fall. some airlines announced plans to relax rebooking rules so passengers can change flig
, there were nine mass killings in the u.s. eight of the gunmen had a history of mental illness. background check is only as good as the database used to check a gun buyer's record. consider this. only 12 states actively submit mental health records to the federal database. the president has proposed fixing this by giving states money to improve recordkeeping. and by urging doctors to report credible threats of violence to law enforcement. mental health experts say the other key to addressing this problem is identifying and treating those with mental illness at a young age. the white house wants to give states the resources to do that. but that's going to require money. and it is also the kind of thing that will take a long time to show results. jonathan karl, abc news, new york. >>> and the president is taking action on two other pressing national issues. he signed a deal to raise the federal borrowing limit, preventing a short-term financial panic. and he meets with lawmakers on ways to reform the immigration system. >>> an iraq war veteran remains on suicide watch as he sits in a texas j
makes the case for drone strikes like the september 2011 attack that killed this operative. he was a u.s. citizen that was never indicted by the government despite alleged involvement in attacks on the u.s. >>> the next foreign policy debate involves the state department, iran, and a monkey. iran says that launch this primate into space last week. the pictures released from before and after the mission beg to differ. washington expresses doubt about any space journey but iranian president said he would like to give it a go. senator john mccain then ran into trouble when he tweeted, "so ahmadinejad wants to be the first iranian in space. wasn't he just there last week"? many in the twitter world called the comment racist. he september out another comment saying his comments were just a joke and told people to "lighten up." >>> now here is your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. the conservative republican governor of ohio john kasich has a course on president obama's health care plan. he now says that he is going to expand medicaid dramatically using money from the f
the nation's intelligence community had their hands on classified documents, the topic, when u.s. drones can legally kill americans overseas. president obama has agreed to the release only after caving in to the demands of congress. and today, in a senate confirmation hearing lawmakers will grill john brennan, obama's choice to lead the cia and also an architect of the drone program and a vocal supporter. >> we conduct targeted strikes because they are necessary to mitigate an actual ongoing threat to stop plots, prevent future attacks, and to save american lives. >> but it was the killing of an american citizen in yemen that raises all the questions. u.s. drones killed u.s.-born cleric anwar al awlaki, he was tied to the terrorist plots including the underwear bomber but never charged in u.s. court. iran claims it has unlocked the encrypted surveillance images from a spy plane drone. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity video which is running on iranian state television and youtube. >> translator: this aircraft has had many flights in countries around iran and operations that ha
works of fiction, the claim states. u.s. doping authorities have given armstrong a two-week window to come in and talk to them. we'll see. on the possible upside for armstrong, the hope that cooperating with authorities now will somehow give him a break and help out with some of his other, many, legal problems. george? >> good work breaking that investigation news. >>> we're going to turn, now, to washington, where america's secret drone war will be in the spotlight today, when john brennan, president obama's pick to be cia director, testifies at his senate confirmation hearing. to smooth his path, the white house agreed overnight to give lawmakers a secret legal memo that lays out the rules for using drones. jon karl joins us with some of that. this is something the white house resisted for some time. >> reporter: as of yesterday afternoon, the white house actually refused to even acknowledge that this memo existed. but late last night, the president made the call to release the memo on a classified basis to the intelligence committee. this is after one prominent democratic senato
from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano from his now disbanded jobs council and chief executives of coca-cola and yahoo!. he also meets with labor and progressive leaders. the meetings will focus on how immigration reform fits into his broader economic agenda. >>> homeland security secretary janet napolitano on monday brought that message to border security operations near san diego. >> our immigration system has been broken for f
. >> and on this day in 1918, the u.s. military relaunched a war time tradition. publishing the newsletter stars and stripes for service members overseas. officials had first printed stars and stripes for union forces during the civil war. the first world war i edition of that paper featured a message from u.s. commander john per pershing. including much what you have would find. latest headlines, lead letters to the editor and of course the car tunes. printing resumed after world war ii and the pentagon has published it regularly ever since on paper and online. our soldiers got the news 95 years ago today. and now you know the news for this friday, snow apocalypse friday february the 8th, 2013. we are keeping close watch on two stories. the hunt for the cop killer on the west coast, the snow apocalypse on the east coast. we are here for you throughout the night. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> i believe i heard you saying. >> yes i, did. >> did you say [bleep] me? >> bill: reacting to gross disrespect angry florida judge sentenced 18-year-old to 30 days in jail for cursing him.
for drone strikes targeting u.s. citizens who are suspected operational leaders of al qaeda. the shift follows mounting demands to see the memos from members of congress. >> they should produce this legal document. i don't think they should hold back anymore. >> i'm going to pull out all the stops to get the actual legal analysis, because without it, in effect, the administration is practicing secret law. >> the move comes two days after nbc news reported on this confidential 16-page justice department white paper that summarized the legal arguments for targeting u.s. citizens who are suspected al qaeda leaders, such as american born anwar al. the white house called such targeted killing a lawful act of self-defense and concluded they did not require the target was plotting a specific attack in the immediate future. the contents of the memo drew sharp criticism from some legal scholars. >> it really looks like a subjective judgment by the american official who will make the call. >> civil liberties advocates say the white house move is not enough. >> it's a memo that really ought to be
this 12-story building. the source of thousands of cyber attacks against 141 u.s. companies spanning 20 industries. whose building is it? according to a new report confirmed by u.s. intelligence, it's the headquarters of unit 61398. >> i think it was time to let the world know, it's actually not just from china, it's the chinese government sanctioning these attacks. >> reporter: among the targets, america's very infrastructure. >> now our enemies are sabotaging our power grid, our financial institutions, our air traffic control systems. >> reporter: other targets of chinese hackers familiar brand names like coca-cola, facebook, "the new york times," on "wash post" and "wall street journal." and only today, apple. the hackers have user names like ugly gorilla and dota. according to this instructional video from mandiant. >> here we see dota logging into one of his operational e-mail accounts. he's used it for spear phishing and generating additional accounts. >> reporter: what is it? how hackers campaign access into a network by sending deceptive e-mails tricking users into clicking on a
be a threat? also in a few minutes u.s. senate expected to vote on chuck hagel president obama's controversial nominee for defense secretary. we'll bring to it live. more on what's going on in egypt right now. a holt air balloon carrying lots of tourists explodes and plummets to the ground. we're finding out how this could happen. we're going live to egypt. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with the huge winter storm, the national weather service is now calling historic. cities like amarillo, texas, wichita, kansas have broken snowfall records. 45 million in 21 states are being affected one way or another. the storm is blamed for at least three deaths. look at this. it's even dangerous after the storm blows away. in kansas city, the heavy wet snow is causing roofs to collapse. nobody was hurt in this building. but the snow is also bringing down tree limbs on to power lines. in kansas city thousands of people are reported without power. george, what's going on? >> reporter: this is par for the course here in the midwest. this is the second time in a week that this r
. ♪ stay in the groove with align. >>> the u.s. government is spending about $3.8 trillion this year but if there's no deal by friday night, agencies will have to cut a fraction of that, about $85 billion clarz. so our big question is that, why would that amount have an impact in the overall economy. tom foreman is analyzing that. have you figured it out, tom? >> when you look at the $3.8 trillion, all these different programs out here, if you've cut out this amount down here, 85 billion, how can can that little slice of all this make a difference? one of the reasons it makes a difference, one of the reasons is because washington is not really looking at the whole budget and they haven't for a long, long time because what you have to consider is that all of the entitlement programs are out of the equation and these programs are bigger than all of the other programs. we aren't really cutting a whole budget. we're talking about putting these cuts in part of the budget. if you look at what has happened to entitlements, look at just defense spending. here's defense spending which is way
secretary nominee jack lew heading to capitol hill. let's check on where we stand in terms of u.s. futures. it looks like we'll be building off of multi-year highs here in the u.s. the picture in europe, again, the sort of anti-race to the base movement going on. the euro is moving higher this morning. we see green arrows across the board. overnight in asia, japan's nikkei down by about a percent here. on heavy volume. the yen gaining there. our road map starts in washington, d.c. the president unveiling an ambitious agenda. he also called for billions to rebuild the nation's infrastructure. >> the dow is back above 14,000. only 1% away from an all-time interday high. the s&p also near its highest levels since november of 2007. what could help markets today? better than expected earnings from deere and gains by general electric and comcast. >> those big gains because of a big deal. comcast agreeing to buy general electric's stakes. in the mean time, let's send it down to carl in d.c. >> a big night here last night. the president addressing the nation in the first state of the union during
, the u.s. marines incoming mascot undergoing obedience training. private chesney 13th continues. maker's mark will stop watering down whiskey or not begin to water it down. it hasn't done that yet. number three, publisher readers digest filed for bankruptcy for the second time and keep publishing. olympic blade runner will s due back in court tomorrow to ask for bail. he is charged with murdering his girlfriend. number one, country singer star mindy mccready is dead of an apparent suicide. that is a fox reported top five. on this day in 2001, a crash during the last lap of daytona 500, killed dale earnhardt sr. he collided with another car and smashed right into the wall. rescue crews had to cut him out of the car. man known as the intimidater with aggressive driving style was pronounced dead. he had been involved in another crash back in 97 when his car flipped. he survived to come back and win the race next year but a deadly crash rod racing of one of its giants 12 years ago. now you know the news for this monday, presidents' day. i'm shepard smith. we'll be back tomorrow and after f
as crews try to keep up with the fallen power lines. >>> that blizzard is stopping the u.s. postal service. mail service has been suspended in connecticut, maine, massachusetts, new hampshire, rhode island, vermont, and areas north of new york city due to weather conditions. but we do also have some good news for airline passengers. airlines at jfk international and laguardia are expected to resume some passenger flights soon. newark flights are not expected to begin until at least noon due to the runways being down overnight. >>> how about this -- more than 1,890 flights canceled today according to flight aware tracking. boston's logan airport closed until 3:00 eastern. and bradley airport in connecticut remains closed, too. >>> here are some other stories we've been watching this morning. in california search teams are trying to find and bring in an ex-cop and suspected killer, christopher dorner. he's still at large, possibly in the resort area of big bear lake. dorner is the accused or is accused, rather, of killing three people in revenge for losing his "dream job" with the lapd. he a
of the deficit. we need more than the sequester, but don't put 50% of the cuts on the u.s. military. we still have kids in afghanistan and this is not the right way to do it. it's a haphazard policy. they need to cut spending, but don't put it on the back for our kids in uniform. >> not a single meaning plan. it goes into effect friday. you know, there's, republicans saying president won't lead, president saying congressional republicans won't -- what is your assessment here? >> my sense is that washington is dysfunctional. not the way we do in most state capitals around the country. president should meet with canter and boehner and mcconnell and others and see if something can be worked out. everybody understood, this was going to be a cut. >> do you think that canter and boehner and all that that they need a compromise on this, as well? >> they need to agree with what the cuts are. that was the understanding, chuck. that these would be real cuts that would be put in place. that was the deal to avert the debt limit, debt limit 18 years ago. >> to force a larger compromise on taxes and on the
timothy dolan, the head of u.s. conference of bishops. he spoke to reporters before he left for rome. >> on thursday we will with him for a while. that i look forward to. that will drive him home literally, to say good-bye. then i think it will begin to sink in that what are we here for? that is going to be awesome. martha: always very plain spoken. cardinal timothy dolan expressing his enthusiasm for what lies ahead of him as he heads to rome. they will begin the meetings on monday we are told you about a spokesman for the vatican says there is no way of knowing how long they will want to meet before they set the date for the conclave to begin. so we're still a few steps to go in this whole process as we get closer. bill: my bet they will move fast but we'll see. it is their call. the conclave is the assembly of cardinals who will pick benedict's successor. 11 american cardinals among the electors in the conclave. the prime meaning from latin, any place a room that could be locked with a key we hear. the cardinals will go to the sistine chapel twice a day to vote. only cardinals und
u.s. citizens who are suspected operational leaders of al qaeda. >> the news came after this white paper that summarized the legal arguments for targeting u.s. citizens who were sus secretaried al qaeda leaders such as a lackey kic al awlaki been charged for a crime. they call it a lawful ability of self defense and concluded they did not require that the target was plotting a specific attacks in the immediate future. the content contents of the memo drew sharp criticism there some legal scholars. >> it really looks like a subjective judgment by the american official who will make the call. >> and civil liberties advocates say the memo is not enough. >> it should be released to the public. if the administration is going to be claiming the authority to kill american citizens, it has an obligation to explain that claim to the public. >> the drone debate will be front and center today when white house counterterrorism adviser john brennan faces his confirmation hearing to be the new cia director. brennan has been the architect of the drone policy and one of its biggest defenders. >> i
that the u.s. government can order the killing of american citizens if they are believed to be senior operational leaders of al-qaeda or an associated force -- here's the key line -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the united states. so that policy is that we believe justice department is saying it is perfectly legal to use drones, not just to go out and kill people that we think might some day plan an attack against the united states who are not friendly to the united states. but also to kill americans anywhere on the planet whom we think are traitors or may some day, plan something against the united states even if there is no evidence that they are now engaged in an active plot. raises the whole question about drone warfare. i'm torn about it because it's a different kind of warfare. i mean, certainly, i would like to know what you think about this. 1-866-55-press. the problem i believe is we've got this technology. we are using it. we are using it more than anybody has ever used it before. i mean i forget how many -- you kno
picture in the u.s., the first lady=í gown was, of course, a huge hit. was not the case in irane1iant(h wardrobe adding sleeves, raising the neck line on thee1çó glitte gown before circulating the image in iran. presumably it was a bit too revealinp for their culture, t before announcing best picture winner, mrs. obama,q she wore that dress to a white house dinner for the nation's governorsfá and, of course, the were no complaints. it was a gorgeous gown. >>> "cnn newsroom" continues right now. >>> it is the real life armageddon t(movie. scientists hope to crash a spaceship into an asteroid, all to prove we can be saved. the news is now.g a hot air balloon, full of pa&h% tourists, crashes to e1earth. but why? >>> plus, the bi >> we should notfá have to move third bill before the senate getse1 off their -- and begins do something. >> accusations fly just three days before automatic cuts hit ) rrñu and -- ♪ who let the dogs out >> investigatorskoo7o looking this kid's parents, a 10-year-old rapper whose video is raising a fewó[ so is the criticism fair? we're on it. i'm broo
of chinese military was responsible for stealing data from at least 141 u.s. and canadian companies. >>> and "the seattle times" from the business section, boeing's developed a possible fix for the battery issue that's plagued their 787 dreamliner since the beginning of january. executives are expected now to present their solution tomorrow when they meet with faa officials, hopefully the battery won't cause the plane to blow up. industry officials say the plane could be back in the air within two months. pike, are you going to ever fly on one of those? >> no. >> there would have to be like a shakedown cruise for a couple years. >> maybe five years from now. >> the wings fall off. >> stop is it. "the new york times," struggling to turn a profit and grow its subscription base, "the new york times" company is looking to sell "the boston globe." >> mike, here's your chance. >> revenue for "the globe" -- >> you and welch. >> 78% from last year. >> setting money aside. >> outside analysts estimate "the globe" could sell for nearly $150 million. >> not happening. >> that's not going to ha
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